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A new Commodore 64 Emulatpr has hit the Palm OS. Frodo is a new classic C64 emulator. The C64 debuted in 1982 and became one of the most successful home computers of its generation.

  1. Hyper Viper by Jamie Howard (distribuited by Psytronik) for Commodore 64 has been cracked and trained by Onslaught. Hyper Viper is a C64 conversion of a game released on the MSX way back in 1985. Jamie has done a fine job converting the game onto the C64 which looks and plays just like the original – but now has improved presentation and music.
  2. May 02, 2020 All Mac Floppy Disks. For all Mac Disks, your best bet might be to find a vintage Mac desk- or laptop with a 3.5-inch SuperDrive that can read and write 400/800 K, and 1.44 MB disks. Try to locate a machine from the beige G3 era that still shipped with floppies. The newer the better, because then you're less likely to have to make repairs to.

Frodo for Palm OS is a port of the free C=64 emulator Frodo by Christian Bauer. Frodo is a highly portable program and currently has versions for Windows, Mac, Linux/Unix, Playstation, Dreamcast and Symbian phones. Johan Forsberg has released the first Palm OS port.

The Commodore 64 debuted in 1982 with an estimated retail price of $595 USD. In addition to being vastly more powerful than anything on the market at the time, it was drastically cheaper than its competitors like the Apple II, IBM PC, or TRS-80. It went on to become one of the best selling computers of its generation.


Frodo requires an ARM processor and OS 5.0 or higher. Frodo is distributed under the GPL (Gnu Public License), which means that it is free and the source code is also included along with the program.

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I hope it works on the Zodiac

The more emus, the better.


Anyone know of any programs for c64 tp download?

Now the only thing that could complement this emulator is a link or a website that has C64 games .. That is of course those progragrams that would be legal to post..


--* Long Live the C64 *--

RE: Anyone know of any programs for c64 tp download?
Hmmm - i thought it was now legal to download games/apps for dead systems based on a recent ruling on the millenium copyright act. But thats not quite the case. Turns out - it has now been clarified that u can make a backup (and can 'crack' for the purposes of doing so) of apps/games for obsolete systems. Read it here:

BUT - for those who feel that the aforementioned act oversteps things to the point of blatant stupidity AND are willing to thumb their nose a little at the law, just enter 'Commodore 64' and 'games' and 'download' into Google. You'll find a million sites. You'll have to do a little sifting thru the garbage but its a lot easier to get REAL working downloads for the C64 then it is to follow the wild goose chase you'll end up on if you go looking for current titles.

RE: Anyone know of any programs for c64 tp download?
Let's just remember, the stupid, evil DMCA applies *ONLY* in the US. Weekends in Canada, anyone?

And lookee here..

-- EasyScript!

Hmmmm.. now can we get GEOS running on that emulator?

RE: Anyone know of any programs for c64 tp download?
Are you sure the c64 is a complete dead system?

I mean I know it was as of last year. I thought I had read an article of some company buying the rights to the name and many of it's software and OS with in the last 6 months or so..Who nknows. maybe Iam just dreaming.

Either way it will be nice to port some of the games over. WooHooo

RE: Anyone know of any programs for c64 tp download?
i can just use my old C64 stuff!

does anyone know where i can get a USB cassette drive that will work with mac OS X?

/sarcasm
palmIII>HandERA330>SonySJ20>TungstenE

yay!

finally! Been wanting on for ages :)

I'm glad more emulators are finally coming out for palm.

OT: Don't forget my Atari ST emulator :)


I forget if I submitted it to PiC or not, so just a off topic reminder ;)

CaSTaway/Palm is a very high quality and works on most beefy OS5 devices (not the T|T1 or T|T2 sadly due to their design limits); take a peek here:

Witch maker mac os. jeff
The Shadow knows!

living History

I find it amusing that the lead in to this article starts with .. The C64 debuted in 1982 and became one of the most successful home computers of its generation.. for us that lived through it that was just yesterday. my how time flies. I think in '83 all I wanted was a floppy drive to make my C64 a 'real' computer.


I think therfore I am overqualified to work here..

RE: living History
This is great. I met an old Commodore engineer that worked with Jim Butterfield just last night in a bar after Thnaksgiving dinner. We were talking ole C64 coding and even talked about how there are PC emulators for it. Man, this is timely. Just tried it out and it even emulates the old '2' and 'left arrow' bugs that appear on the command line prompt when you moved the joystick around.
RE: living History
maybe one day it is even possible to clip a piece out of my SD card to get the double amount of memory on it when putting it into my Palm the other way round.. ;-)
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Palmusergroup Mannheim/Germany - www.pug-mannheim.de.vu
RE: living History
>>maybe one day it is even possible to clip a piece out of my SD card to get the double amount of memory on it when putting it into my Palm the other way round.. ;-)

Yeah! That was the best thing about 5 1/4 floopies - a simple hole-puncher would double the storage capacity.

RE: living History
I had a plastic/metal widget that was made just for floppies. It was pretty cool and made the notches look factory made, but I did not use it as much after I went to a 800k 3.5 drive.

I still have my Commodore 64!

Yeah, it's in a box somewhere in the garage! It's funny how much more powerful my Treo600 is in comparison. Now if someone could only get that Apple II emu working on the Treo :(..
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DOH!!! Doesn't work on Treo600!
Just causes a a soft reset on my Treo600..oh well..
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RE: I still have my Commodore 64!
most likely the developer assumes that OS5 320x320, as many other developers have done in the past. i dont think the 160x160 resolution is actually enough to present the c64 graphics anyhow. i am a bit concerned tho, most screenshots have been showing 12% or so on the bottom right corner - surely its not running that slow :)
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Aaron Ardiri
PalmOS Certified Developer
aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
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RE: I still have my Commodore 64!
>>i am a bit concerned tho, most screenshots have been showing 12% or so on the bottom right corner - surely its not running that slow :)

No - i'm running it on a T|T (not the fastest OS 5 device) and it usually runs at or > than %100. Must be caused by running something else - like maybe the screenshot app :) My only complaint (and i understand from reading the forum is that they are working on this) is the microscopic size of the on-screen keyboard. They are supposedly doing a larger one for the next release (they've got plenty of room to steal from the top and bottom screen border of the 64).

RE: I still have my Commodore 64!
Its probably on POS5 simulator. Things run slow in the simulator.

SID chip

Being a 'Commodore kid' like many of us Palm guys, I saw this in the making. Be nice to test out how well they emulated the SID chip with the Palm OS Sound API.
RE: SID chip
the problem is not the Palm Audio - its understanding/parsing the SID format *g*
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Aaron Ardiri
PalmOS Certified Developer
aaron_ardiri@mobilewizardry.com
http://www.mobilewizardry.com/members/aaron_ardiri.php
RE: SID chip
>>Being a 'Commodore kid' like many of us Palm guys, I saw this in the making. Be nice to test out how well they emulated the SID chip with the Palm OS Sound API.

My friend - a coding whiz when it comes to the C64 - banged out some code (on the Palm emu itself no-less!) within 15 minutes of me installing it, to test the sound. It does filter sweep (a decent test of the SID emu capibilities) - and it works fine on the emu.


I like it ..

.. but unfortunately I can´t describe how much, because I have to play another round of Great Giana Sisters now on my Palm Tungsten T .. sorry, on my Palm T/T C64. :-)
With kind regards

Stefan D. from Mannheim, Germany

Christian Bauer Rocks!

If my memory is correct Christian Bauer made the mac emulator for the Amiga in 90s. It was cool. On my Amiga2000/PPC I ran the Mac emulator, in the Mac Emualtor I had softPC running and in softPC I had the Amiga emulator running also. It will weird having amiga running the amiga emulator.

like everyone else I still have C=64 , VIC and Amigas in storage ;)


C64ers, help me out!!

There was this *one* bloody program I wanted for my C64. It was damned cool. Basically, you moved the joystick around (or perhaps even used the arrow keys!) to make this circle move around the screen. It trailed colors and -- this is what floored me -- made music!

Does *anyone* know what the name of this program was/is? And it is available on the Net (I will of coure google once I know the damned name!)?

But most importantly: Will it/does it work properly on a TT3?!!?

RE: C64ers, help me out!!
no such game ever existed. you are probably just having a flashback from a hallucinogen you took back in 1984.


RE: C64ers, help me out!!
I know the app you're talking about Mike - but i can't remember the name. I'll ask my friend (this guy actually keeps a working 64 system setup and ready to go at all times and has about a dozen more 64s in storage, along with every peripheral ever made for it - i'm not kidding!) - he'll know.
RE: C64ers, help me out!!
Sounds like the work of Jeff Minter. Whatever happened to him.
Edward Green
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RE: C64ers, help me out!!
Sorry, I think the app was Colourspace by Jeff Minter of:

Just to say llamatron is the best game ever. If only there was a version for the Treo 600.

>sigh<
Edward Green
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RE: C64ers, help me out!!
Seek out the remaining C64 enclaves online.

There are still die hards who have 'em set up.

I've been hanging at my buddy's computer shop for ten years now, and we still see 'em come in for stuff occasionally.

We even dis-mounted units that were up on the walls to replace stuff in the past.

Remarkable..


Colourspace?
http://www.page6.org/archive/issue_16/page_12.htm

-- I don't know. These snaps look awfully lo-res. I recall the C64 stuff being smoother. And it doesn't mention it creating music!

Jim Slim (C64) Mac OS

What was your favorite C64 Game?

Mine was 'Beyond Castle Wolfenstein'. I also loved Archon, Bruce Lee, Beach Head, Mission Impossible, and Golf.

Boy that was a great machine. It helped get me through high school and college with the basic word processor for study notes and reports/term papers.


RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
mine has to be rocket ranger and the last ninja
RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
I'm surprised neither of you mentioned M.U.L.E. by Dan Bunten. That game is considered by many (me included) to be one of the all-time classic games ever.


If you've never played it, grab a friend and give it a try!


RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Summer Games II and Jumpman.
Jim
RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
There was a game that I used to love. You were a space ship and you had to fly above and below various electrical fences, shooting various enemies as you went. The end of each level had some sort of dragon looking character that would shoot fire balls at you.. what was that??
RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Mine was a football game that took 20 minutes to load from my cassette data drive (couldn't afford the floppy drive, God how I wanted one).

I can't remember the name of this football game, but it basically allowed you to choose your offense, or defense, then the C64 would run the play, and using random parameters would give the result of the play. I wrote a similar basketball game as a college project.

Does anybody know the name of the football game? I would love to get that one to work on the emu.

RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Nevermind, figured out my own question. The game was called Zaxxon. I still have my C64 monitor for use as an extra TV.. it works great when plugged into a VCR.
RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Blue Max

Damn, this thread is really taking me back to the early 80's.. :-)

RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Mine had to be Archon and a game called Blagger. Funny how I was just thinking about C64 ports when I saw this discussion.
RE: What was your favorite C64 Game?
Elite, M.U.L.E, Seven Cities of Gold, Spindizzy, and Questron (yeah there were better rpg games then Questron - including the Ultima series and Bard Tale - but Questron had this quaint charm about it).

>I still have my C64 monitor for use as an extra TV.. it works great when plugged into a VCR.

The 1702 (if thats the monitor yr talking about) has got to be the best CRT monitor ever made. You still see these things in use everywhere - and it was built 20 years ago!! Seriously - i still see them in use connected to VCRs for home purposes, and as security or display use. i once droped one 5 feet unto a hardwood floor and although i cracked the case, the thing continued to work flawlessly for years after (i finally gave it to somebody). Best monitor ever built - engineers must have forgot to build a life-span into the thing:) Commodore must have realized this (they werent selling any replacements:) ) - so they eventually replaced it with a crappier, shoddy monitor with worse display quality.


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GEOS
GEOS for the Commodore 64. Mimicking Commodore's own OS core naming, Berkeley called GEOS' core a 'kernal' (cf. kernel).
DeveloperBerkeley Softworks
(later GeoWorks)
Working stateDiscontinued, historic
Initial release1986; 35 years ago
Latest releaseGEOS 2.0
Available inEnglish and German
PlatformsCommodore 64, Commodore 128, Commodore Plus/4, Apple II family, MEGA65, Commander X16
Default user interfaceGraphical user interface

GEOS (Graphic Environment Operating System) is a discontinued operating system from Berkeley Softworks (later GeoWorks). Originally designed for the Commodore 64 with its version being released in 1986, enhanced versions of GEOS later became available in 1987 for the Commodore 128 and in 1988 for the Apple II family of computers. A lesser-known version was also released for the Commodore Plus/4.

GEOS closely resembles early versions of the classic Mac OS and includes a graphical word processor (geoWrite) and paint program (geoPaint).

A December 1987 survey by the Commodore-dedicated magazine Compute!'s Gazette found that nearly half of respondents used GEOS.[1](p4) For many years, Commodore bundled GEOS with its redesigned and cost-reduced C64, the C64C. At its peak, GEOS was the third-most-popular microcomputer operating system in the world in terms of units shipped, trailing only MS-DOS and Mac OS (besides the original Commodore 64's KERNAL).[citation needed]

Other GEOS-compatible software packages were available from Berkeley Softworks or from third parties, including a reasonably sophisticated desktop publishing application called geoPublish and a spreadsheet called geoCalc. While geoPublish is not as sophisticated as Aldus Pagemaker and geoCalc not as sophisticated as Microsoft Excel, the packages provide reasonable functionality, and Berkeley Softworks founder Brian Dougherty claimed the company ran its business using its own software on Commodore 8-bit computers for several years.

Development[edit]

Written by a group of programmers, the GEOS Design Team:[2] Jim DeFrisco, Dave Durran, Michael Farr, Doug Fults, Chris Hawley, Clayton Jung, and Tony Requist, led by Dougherty, who cut their teeth on limited-resource video game machines such as the Atari 2600, GEOS was revered[citation needed] for what it could accomplish on machines with 64–128 kB of RAM memory and 1–2 MHz of 8-bit processing power.

Unlike many pieces of proprietary software for the C64 and C128, GEOS takes full advantage of many of the add-ons and improvements available for these systems. Commodore's 1351mouse is supported by GEOS, as are its various RAM expansion units. GEOS 128 also fully supports the C128's 640×200 high-resolution VDC display mode through a compatible RGB monitor.

The C64 version of GEOS incorporates a built-in fast loader, called diskTurbo, that significantly increases the speed of drive access on the slow 1541. GEOS is the first Commodore software that could use a floppy disk as swap space or virtual memory.[3] GEOS 128 can take advantage of the C128's enhanced 'burst mode' in conjunction with the 1571 and 1581 drives. The Commodore version of GEOS uses a copy protection scheme that renders users' disks unbootable if it detects that the disk has been illegally duplicated.[4]

Via Berkeley's special geoCable interface converter or other third-party interfaces to connect standard RS-232 or Centronics printers to the Commodore serial bus, GEOS supports a wide variety of printers, including HPPCL printers and the Apple LaserWriter. This ability to print to high-end printers was a major factor in making GEOS a desktop publishing platform.

The Apple II version of GEOS was released as freeware in August 2003. The Commodore 64/128 versions followed in February 2004.

The latest GEOS desktop suite for IBM PC compatibles is Breadbox Ensemble. Revivals were seen in the OmniGo handhelds, Brother GeoBook line of laptop-appliances, and the NewDeal Office package for PCs. Related code found its way to earlier 'Zoomer' PDAs, creating an unclear lineage to Palm, Inc.'s later work. Nokia used GEOS as a base operating system for their Nokia Communicator series, before switching to EPOC (Symbian).

GEOS versions[edit]

Floppy disk containing GEOS for Commodore 64C (1986)
  • 1986: GEOS for Commodore 64
  • 1987: GEOS for Commodore C128, Commodore Plus/4 (unofficial)
  • 1988: GEOS for Apple II, GEOS V2.0 for Commodore C64, GEOS V2.1 for Apple II
  • 1989: GEOS V2.0 for Commodore C128[5]

Reverse engineering efforts[edit]

On August 19, 2016, Michael Steil posted in his blog[6] that the source code for GEOS 2.0 for Commodore C64 had been fully reverse-engineered the cc65 compiler suite. The reverse-engineered source code has been made available at Github.[7]

GEOS products and applications[edit]

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geoPaint screenshot
A HiRes graphic of Flensburg's Nordertor which was painted with geoPaint
geoWrite screenshot

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Dozens of official and third-party applications and other products were produced for GEOS. Among the most important and popular were the following:

  • geoBASIC
  • geoCable
  • geoCalc
  • geoChart
  • geoDex
  • geoDraw
  • geoFAX
  • geoFile
  • geoFont
  • geoLabel
  • geoPaint
  • geoPrint
  • geoProgrammer
  • geoSpell
  • geoWrite
  • geoWrite Workshop
  • Writer 64 (Timeworks)[8]

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^Elko, Lance (1 May 1988). 'Editor's Notes'. Compute!'s Gazette. Vol. 6 no. 59. ISSN0737-3716. Retrieved 11 February 2021 – via Internet Archive.
  2. ^GEOS User's Manual, Version 1.2Archived 2015-09-23 at the Wayback Machine, Printed: October 1986, Berkeley Softworks, 2150 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley, California 94704
  3. ^'GEOS: A Whole New World for your Commodore'.
  4. ^'Info magazine Issue 14'.
  5. ^http://www.guidebookgallery.org/timelines/geos
  6. ^http://www.pagetable.com/?p=869
  7. ^https://github.com/mist64/geos
  8. ^Guerra, Bob (May 1989). 'Writer 64'. Compute!. p. 78. Retrieved 11 November 2013.

Further reading[edit]

  • Farr, Michael (15 February 1987). The Official GEOS Programmer's Reference Guide. For Commodore 64/64C/128. Includes versions 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2. Berkeley Softworks. Bantam Books. ISBN978-0553344042. OCLC16684486. OL7825792M – via Internet Archive.
  • Tornsdorf, Manfred; Kerkoh, Rüdiger (1 May 1988). GEOS Inside and Out: An introduction to GEOS, its applications and internals (2nd ed.). Abacus Software Inc. ISBN978-0916439811. OCLC18446175. OL11434890M.

External links[edit]

  • Breadbox Home of the GEOS operating system (down, archived here at the Internet Archive)
  • The Commodore GEOS FAQ v1.5.0 – By Bo Zimmermann
  • GEOS: The Graphical Operating System A lengthy review of GEOS and its history
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